.. _bda-counterexamples-to-large-sample-asymptotic-bayesian-theorems: ======================================================================== Counterexamples to large-sample (asymptotic) Bayesian theorems ======================================================================== **Part 1 · Stage 4 · 📏 Asymptotics & Frequentist Ties** · Lesson 030 of 144 · *beginner* :doc:`◀ Previous · Large-Sample Theory <029-large-sample-theory>` · :doc:`Next · Frequency Evaluations of Bayesian Inferences ▶ <031-frequency-evaluations-of-bayesian-inferences>` · :doc:`↑ Section ` .. important:: **✨ AI-generated content.** This page was written with the assistance of an AI language model and is provided as a learning aid. Despite careful review, it may still contain mistakes, omissions, or out-of-date information. Whether you are new to the topic, a team lead, or a senior practitioner, treat it as a starting point rather than an authoritative reference: read it critically and independently verify anything you act on (code, commands, figures, and factual claims) against official documentation and primary sources before relying on it. When the guarantees fail -------------------------- Large-sample theory is a promise with fine print, and the fine print matters. Each regularity condition can fail in practice, and when it does, the reassuring picture — concentration, normality, correct coverage — can fail with it. At the boundary ----------------- If the true value sits on the **edge** of the parameter space, the posterior cannot be normal there: it has nowhere to put mass on one side. A hierarchical variance :math:`\tau^2` whose true value is **zero** (groups genuinely identical) produces a posterior heaped against the boundary — asymmetric, non-normal, and badly summarised by a mode and curvature. The same happens for a probability at 0 or 1. The normal approximation on a **transformed** scale (:math:`\log \tau`) helps, but the boundary case is inherently awkward. Not identified, or growing ---------------------------- **Unidentified** parameters — those the likelihood cannot distinguish — never concentrate; the posterior in that direction remains the prior, however much data arrive. **Label switching** in mixtures (Stage 16) is a benign instance; a multimodal likelihood is a harsher one. And when the number of parameters **grows with** :math:`n` — one per observation, as in the classic Neyman–Scott problem — consistency for the parameters of interest can fail outright, since new data bring new unknowns. Infinite dimensions --------------------- Most striking are the **nonparametric** counterexamples of Diaconis and Freedman: with an infinite-dimensional parameter, seemingly innocuous priors yield posteriors that **converge to the wrong answer**. In some of their examples, the posterior mean and density converge on a false value while the posterior **mode** remains consistent — a warning that in infinite dimensions, intuition built on finite parameter counts is not merely imprecise but wrong. The nonparametric models of Part V must therefore be chosen with care, not adopted casually. Misspecification, the everyday case ------------------------------------- The likeliest failure is the mundane one: **the model is wrong**. The posterior then concentrates on the parameter minimising Kullback–Leibler divergence from the truth — the "best available lie" — and becomes normal around it, but with a **sandwich** variance rather than the inverse Fisher information. Credible intervals shrink like :math:`1/\sqrt{n}` around a value that is not the truth, growing more confident and no less wrong. .. code-block:: python # symptom, not proof: posterior concentrating away from any sensible value # while posterior predictive checks fail -> suspect misspecification, not sample size The moral is not that asymptotics are useless but that they are **conditional**. They justify approximations in regular, correctly specified, fixed-dimension problems — and they justify **model checking** everywhere else. .. hint:: **Related lessons:** :doc:`Large-Sample Theory <029-large-sample-theory>` · :doc:`Normal Approximations to the Posterior Distribution <028-normal-approximations-to-the-posterior-distribution>` · :doc:`Dirichlet process prior distributions <140-dirichlet-process-prior-distributions>` · :doc:`Label switching and posterior computation <136-label-switching-and-posterior-computation>` .. seealso:: **Source article** Adapted (context, re-expressed) in our own words from: `https://insightful-data-lab.com/2025/11/09/counterexamples-to-large-sample-asymptotic-bayesian-theorems/ `__ (insightful-data-lab.com). .. tags:: purpose: reference, topic: data analysis, domain: bayesian, level: beginner